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Post by papacheese on Apr 23, 2008 13:29:59 GMT -5
Now for something a bit more...interactive. www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDzRpt5psxkThe video is a little over two minutes long.....based on what you see for the first 30 to 45 seconds, assess the conditions, weigh the risks and benefits, then make your call....offensive, transitional, defensive. No cheating! |
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Post by voyager9 on Apr 23, 2008 13:35:57 GMT -5
I love the idea of video-based MTC.. unfortunately my employer blocks youtube so I'll wait for the book to come out.
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Post by wellingcountry on Apr 23, 2008 15:31:45 GMT -5
OK I'm gonna try one.
I would say offensive.
E1 1 3/4
E2 Secure Water supply 2nd 1 3/4 and Hooks
E3 Third 1 3/4 protect stair well
T1 Vent the Roof
T2 Hooks start opening up where needed
R1 Primary search and Horiz Vent if needed
Keep and eye on the operation and if needed switch to defensive quick.
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Post by walshy15 on Apr 23, 2008 17:09:04 GMT -5
I'll give it a shot and say transitional. I would vent the house as best as possible
and then decide. Also, they better protect the neighboring house from those flames
and sparks.
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Post by thelurker on Apr 24, 2008 12:56:39 GMT -5
this one is tough, and based a lot on staffing and resources...3 alarms right off the bat.
1st companies would probably do exposure protection and a defensive attack.
Once I get the man power there, I would like to commit companies to the least involved of the houses, and get companies onto the exposure building to ensure no or very little extension.
Worst comes to worst, Elevated master streams, and heavy lines from the outside. Protect the exposures, contact PSE&G, American Red Cross, and Winzingers. Maybe a courtesy call to Stokleys to tell him to go back to bed, no need for board-up.
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Post by firstin312 on Apr 28, 2008 15:27:44 GMT -5
Chief this is tough because you said go by the first 30-45 seconds and make your decision. I did view the whole thing first and went back to see the first 30-45 seconds and say transitional; Why, the amount of smoke on I believe to be the A side of the house, but I would be aggresive on the attack, until the situation changed like manpower and the fact they way it blew thru the vent on the side of the house this is defenitely one of those jobs that could get bad quick.. Proper man power is a key and the water supply as well, it sounds like at one point someone say we or he lost water, that is automatic pulling out of the crews. It is another one of those jobs that remind me of 47-49 E .Third St
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Post by papacheese on Apr 28, 2008 15:47:37 GMT -5
Chief this is tough because you said go by the first 30-45 seconds and make your decision. I did view the whole thing first and went back to see the first 30-45 seconds and say transitional; Why, the amount of smoke on I believe to be the A side of the house, but I would be aggresive on the attack, until the situation changed like manpower and the fact they way it blew thru the vent on the side of the house this is defenitely one of those jobs that could get bad quick.. Proper man power is a key and the water supply as well, it sounds like at one point someone say we or he lost water, that is automatic pulling out of the crews. It is another one of those jobs that remind me of 47-49 E .Third St Yeah, I kinda got one of those "Third Street deja vu" moments too, but at my age, flashbacks are a normal part of daily life..LOL When I read over the comments being posted, I don't judge specific tactics like venting or ladder placement too much, preferring instead to see what the person's "strategic perspective" is. All of us have been to fires that, for reasons we unable to describe or identify, just make the hair on the back of our necks stand up. You know the ones....something is "different", "weird", or "out of place". In some ways, I call that my "strategic snapshot"...a quick impression that needs to be either confirmed, modified, or revisited, depending on what I see/hear/smell (never underestimate the Mark One Mod One schnozola...sometimes you can smell a situation going south!) Watching the video, I got the distinct impression that things were beginning to spin out of control, and that catching up was about to become a female dog. To me , the hallmark of a good officer is being able to think ahead of the orange stuff...a sometimes impossible task. Fires today do not provide us with the luxury of time...they simply have their own schedule to meet regardless of what we may think. Getting ahead sometimes means doing unpopular things, like ordering another supply line or an extra company or two...the kind of actions that always get the Monday Morning Quarterbacks wagging their tongues. Good officers are usually five minutes ahead of the flames....if possible. |
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