Make The Call #36

[papacheese]

Again, something many of us would find in our locals....make your call!

[thelurker]

E1 is arriving with a 2 Story, Middle of the Row Multi Family Dwelling, Smoke Showing from the Soffits, Unknown Occupants.

E1 Officer does a 360 by going through the neighbors houses.

1st Order of Business- Evacuate, Evacuate, Evacuate!!! Get the neighbors out.

E1- Drag a 1-3/4" quick search Div. 1, Move to Div 2, and quick search that, then put out what ever is burning.

E2- Back up E1's line and get water supply.

T1- Get that roof opened up and release that pressure building up in the attic. Also, possibly stop lateral spread by doing that.

[WebBoss]

This would have a couple of special calls in my book...

4 Engines, 3 Trucks, and Somebody to be the sit and wait team.

1st Engine and 1st Truck to the A side of the fire unit. 2 Lines to the interior (Fire Attack & Back-Up), the truck will work on opening everything up for them.

2nd Engine picks up 1st Engine's water supply, manpower pulls the back-up line off the 1st Engine.

3rd Engine drops in from a secondary water supply. Pulls a line to Exposure B. They get assigned a Truck to help them open up and work any extension.

4th Engine picks up the plug for the 3rd Engine, manpower pulls another line off the 4th engine to Exposure D. They get assigned the 3rd Truck to open up Exposure D for any extension.

This may seem like a bit of overkill, but I am one who would much rather have more doing less then over taxing my resources. I also prefer to not have any more then 2 lines off of one engine whenever possible. This way, if mechanical or water supply issues arise, not all my eggs are being kept in one basket. On incidents where there is heavier initial involvement, I actually prefer to have the back up line come from a seperate engine, thus creating a true "back-up" type senario.

The construction of these buildings is probably fairly light, with truss roofs and what not. It wouldn't surprise me if they even have composite floor joists as well. They look modern, so there probably is firewalls, BUT, with construction that light, I don't hold much faith in the firewalls anyway.

[JDub]

Me not really knowing on how to approach this, I was hesitant to do this one however I will give it a shot.

I agree with Sean, I will call for maybe what is considered over kill because I can always send them home.

5 Engines 3 Trucks 5 RITs

E1- Lay in if possible, 1 3/4 to the interior and find the fire.

E2- Pick up E1's lay and establish a water supply send manpower forward for the back up line.

E3- Interior with the protection of the hose line so they can do a primary search. Once Primary search is complete to the exposures to help evacuate residents and/or have to search if smoke condition. Once they complete that they can assist evacuating the rest of the row of houses.

E4- (Secondary Water Source) Lay in and pull line and go to the one exposure.

E5- Pick up E4's lay and have manpower to the other exposure with a hand line.

T1- Open the Roof up and throw ground ladders

T2- B Exposure

T3- D Exposure

R1- A Side

R2- C Side

R3- B Exposure

R4- D Exposure

R5- Roof Division

I thought about adding a 5th RIT company for the guys on the roof but didn't know so I did anyway. I thought about it and was going off what Sean said. Rather have more than not enough.

[papacheese]

Here's my read/thought:

1) Fire location is in the attic.

2) Fire has a good hold in the attic space but has not yet broken out of the box...we have a few minutes to get ourselves set up.

3) I'm calling [glow=red,2,300]Transitional[/glow]initially with the hope of going Offensive should the fire allow us enough time to gather appropriate personnel and resources...remember, the fire has it's own schedule and doesn't take ours into account.

4) I think Sean's assessment is dead on...while it isn't that nasty looking at this point, it's gonna get REAL UGLY real fast. I share his thoughts about construction and firewalls and remain highly skeptical of their integrity. Better to take a strong posture than a weak one...get em coming.

5) Initial engine companies to stretch attack and back-up lines to fire building with follow-along companies being assigned to units on either side to stretch lines and hook second floor ceilings. Here's where timely and concise communications becomes vitally important: as IC, I need to know what they find as soon as they find it...it will directly impact my strategic posture. If these crews report heavy smoke or heat in the adjacent attic spaces, it's time to boogy and rethink the process.

[voyager9]

I see a three-story middle of row multi-family. Smoke pushing from the eves. Fire probably has a good hold of the attic but hasn't popped out yet. Slight Wind is Right-to-Left
Looks to be middle of the day, but there are enough cars parked to make me question occupants.

Strategy: Transitional, but make movements toward Offensive. Get a line stretched inside and have crew asses the situation. Also get crews next door to check for extension. What they find will dramatically change our tactics.

Tactics: I'm going to along the same lines and think 4 engines, 3 Trucks, 2 RIT. Assume 4-man crews.
E1: Pull attack line and make entry to the fire building. Assess the conditions, if there isn't much heat/fire on Div1 or 2 then stretch dry to Div2 and search as they go. If its bad then advise command and stop to rethink.
E2: Dry line To the B1-exposure (maybe leave outside, but have it ready) and search/evacuate. Check for extension in the attic area. If extension is found, advise command: Stop and rethink.
T1: Position main to Fire Building roof. Crew inside to assist E1 by pulling ceilings on Div2 to provide some access to the attic.
E3: Backup to the fire building.
T2: Position main to the B2 roof. Crew use T1's aerial to vent the roof of the Fire Building. Once vent-hole is cut, assist E2's crew checking for extension in B1.
E4: Dry line to D1, search/evacuate. Check for extension.
T3: Position main to the D2 roof. Crew assists E4.
R1: Throw ground ladder's on division A, then standby at CP.
R2: Throw ground ladder's on division D, then standby div D.
CP: Request YardBreather Task Force D-delta to run the Canteen.

If E1 finds a bad situation in the Fire Building, or E2 finds extension in the attic we're going to have to rethink. If what E1 finds is very bad we're writing that off and making a stand on the exposures. If E2 finds extension I'd move E4 to assist. If its really bad we may have to write that off too and stand at B2.