ENG27SQ
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Post by ENG27SQ on Dec 13, 2007 11:27:04 GMT -5
Here's a good one I guess. What's your plan of attack? Defensive,Offensive or Transitional?  |
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Post by WebBoss on Dec 13, 2007 11:52:59 GMT -5
Before my intermediate level boss sees this, allow me to take the oppertunity to reply accordingly... Take the first due engine, and fill it with water. Take all the nozzles off the hose lines and change them out with smoothbore tips. Hit it hard from the outside and knock it down. Once knocked down, re-evaluate the situation and go from there. Did I miss anything??  (I had to, sorry) |
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Post by ENG27SQ on Dec 13, 2007 11:54:31 GMT -5
Before my intermediate level boss sees this, allow me to take the oppertunity to reply accordingly... Take the first due engine, and fill it with water. Take all the nozzles off the hose lines and change them out with smoothbore tips. Hit it hard from the outside and knock it down. Once knocked down, re-evaluate the situation and go from there. Did I miss anything?? (I had to, sorry) Im sure you know where this was...clearly haha |
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Post by FirstDue312 on Dec 13, 2007 11:54:51 GMT -5
First thing that comes to my mind is water supply. Judging by what appears to be the first due engine, I do not see any LDH off the back of it to indicate a lay in. Looks rural enough that the Tanker taskforce or a Pipeline team should be hit immediately as this fire is already in its advanced stages.
Judging by what we have now, and the fact that water still will not be established 5 minutes from now, make sure everyone is out of the structure due to the time of night, and if so, wait for your water and set up shop outside. This looks too far gone, with the fire having apparently self ventilated and fire showing on all sides.
Re-evaluate once you get good water and see what you can do.
Try to push fire load back towards Division C (from our viewpoint as it stands) in an attempt to save that back room
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Post by 3105 on Dec 13, 2007 12:15:56 GMT -5
Not being aware of the location or circumstance, water supply is of course a critical factor....whether hydrant or tanker supplied, there will be a certain amount of time needed to establish a supply volume that will be sufficient to overcome the BTU's that are so brightly lighting up the surrounding woods....an amount of time that will only see the present volume of fire shown increase expotentially.
Based on my observation, there is little to nothing left to save unfortunately. Being entirely realistic, ANY associated risk is not worth ANY supposed benefit.
Defensive: establish master streams and an ember patrol; maintain a strict collapse zone around the soon-to-be-a-smoking-hole-in-the-ground structure.
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Post by tootall on Dec 13, 2007 13:01:44 GMT -5
I got this one...Play around with it for a little while until 3712 shows up...once they get there hard the opperation over to them...let them shut down the lines and replace them all with smoothbores...put a 2 1-2 in service and everyone goes home in about 20 mins. 292 does that sound about right?  |
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ENG27SQ
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Post by ENG27SQ on Dec 13, 2007 13:54:09 GMT -5
I got this one...Play around with it for a little while until 3712 shows up...once they get there hard the opperation over to them...let them shut down the lines and replace them all with smoothbores...put a 2 1-2 in service and everyone goes home in about 20 mins. 292 does that sound about right? Hey now. We had our smoothbores in service. some jack@$$ inhouse change the other 1 to a saberjet cause well...he's a jack@$$. |
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Post by 3105 on Dec 13, 2007 14:17:32 GMT -5
I got this one...Play around with it for a little while until 3712 shows up...once they get there hard the opperation over to them...let them shut down the lines and replace them all with smoothbores...put a 2 1-2 in service and everyone goes home in about 20 mins. 292 does that sound about right? Hey now. We had our smoothbores in service. some jack@$$ inhouse change the other 1 to a saberjet cause well...he's a jack@$$. What's wrong with a Sabre Jet?  |
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ENG27SQ
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Post by ENG27SQ on Dec 13, 2007 14:40:29 GMT -5
Hey now. We had our smoothbores in service. some jack@$$ inhouse change the other 1 to a saberjet cause well...he's a jack@$$. What's wrong with a Sabre Jet? Nothing is wrong with them Chief, I like them a lot. But I prefer the smooth bore tips. |
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Post by 3105 on Dec 13, 2007 14:48:51 GMT -5
Was just wondering if anyone had experienced any problems with them...
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ENG27SQ
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Post by ENG27SQ on Dec 13, 2007 15:08:18 GMT -5
Was just wondering if anyone had experienced any problems with them... The first models I did not like. To turn it on acting as a regular nozzle you had to twist the pattern to open it. To use the combo, just open the bale. The new models are idiot proof and work smoother as well. |
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JDub
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Post by JDub on Dec 13, 2007 15:39:44 GMT -5
Master Streams
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Post by 1710 on Dec 13, 2007 15:56:15 GMT -5
I have to do it also........
If I remember correctly, T1716 chanegd out nozzles on Div B and E3712 did the same thing on the A/D corner. I also remember the fire going out very quickly after that was completed.
Hopefully it was a lesson learned for everyone that evening.
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(I had to, sorry)
