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Post by 3105 on Dec 10, 2007 6:25:33 GMT -5
 Considerations......assume there are injured passengers on the bus. |
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hp4l
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Post by hp4l on Dec 10, 2007 6:44:16 GMT -5
I got this pic off of Philly Fire News and I believe it said that there were 30 kids on the bus. Call for an EMS task force to assure you get BLS, ALS, and a rescue. Also call for multiple BLS strike teams. The building needs to be shored. Watch for ice, possibly a cause of the accident. Set up a joint command post with the PD and EMS. School officials will be involved also.
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Post by voyager9 on Dec 10, 2007 7:31:38 GMT -5
School officials will be involved also. And the understatement of the year-award goes to...  I agree with your plan though. Mucho-EMS and a rescue for shoring. Also call for the township/county engineer to assess the condition of the building. The good news is that the back of the bus is not compromised so getting the kids out shouldn't be too bad. |
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JDub
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Post by JDub on Dec 10, 2007 11:31:09 GMT -5
CALL CHERRY HILL.
Call Ems Taskforce.
All victims out the rear emergency door.
Bus not to be moved until you or CHERRY HILL has stabilized the building.
Salt truck to the scene to create a safe scene for all involved.
Set up stabilization no matter what. Who cares if the building isn't going to fall better safe then sorry. Also create a collapse zone area just in case.
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ENG27SQ
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Post by ENG27SQ on Dec 10, 2007 11:44:33 GMT -5
Definitely...CALL IN CHERRY HILL STRUCTURAL COMPANY! EMS Taskforce and an Engine Company on the scene. Get all the kids and driver off the bus
Evac that building regardless, if it means the cops bringing the manager/owner out, so be it. It might not be structural damaged in the rear but it only takes a little to make something of that magnitude fall..
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Post by 3105 on Dec 10, 2007 14:46:03 GMT -5
Everyone's firing on all cylinders...all good comments/thoughts. My only addition or possible consideration: instead of stabilizing, simply chock the wheels and begin the evac out the back. This is going to make the five o'clock news so take a minute to cover all your bases.
Another thought about the construction: Fire292's comment about the building underscores another cognative fallacity we tend to exhibit: assumption.
In no way, shape, or form am I even remotely familiar with building design and load values; since I cannot draw upon vast wealth of knowledge, in the absence of cold, hard facts, why not take the approach that it is hazardous until proven otherwise by an acknowledged expert? While some may say this is "overreacting", I submit that I'd much rather overreact than underreact. Or, put another way:
[glow=red,2,300]"Overreacting will result in a little ball busting, while underreacting will result in a resignation"[/glow]
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ENG27SQ
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Post by ENG27SQ on Dec 10, 2007 15:14:05 GMT -5
Thats how we must think. Assume the worst scenario right before your eyes. Do what we can to PREVENT it!
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