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Post by 3105 on Nov 25, 2007 16:23:00 GMT -5
 This one (as well as several as-yet-to-be posted excellent pics) is courtesy of our own JC 251/201/311: Lots to see and ponder before making the call; start with where you SHOULD be standing when looking at this and go from there. Let the incident unfold and tell us what your concerns and reactions are. Humor me and tag it "Offensive", "Transitional", or "Defensive".... |
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hp4l
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Post by hp4l on Nov 25, 2007 16:33:52 GMT -5
I would say transitional. I am not going anywhere near that thing until PSE&G arrives to secure the power. Until then, what is around this truck? Whats on the other side? I would do my investigating from the rear of the truck since the front is already well involved with a pole on it. Are we able to find the driver to see what is in this truck, or are there placards on the back? Are there any exposures that we can protect safely?
After power is secured it is time to attack this fire, as long as the contents in the trailer won't delay us any further. Since we will have already waited for PSE&G, we should have had time to plan this out before going after it. Go at it with 2 - 1 3/4" lines, if the manpower allows it and you have a water supply. Appoint a safety officer, something we probably don't regularly do on a vehicle fire. Someone needs to keep an eye on that pole because it still can fall.
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Post by 3105 on Nov 25, 2007 16:38:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the placards on the side aren't readable...I get the idea that there a good possibilty that it has some methy-ethyl bad stuff inside....although I can't be 100% certain.
County Haz-Mat on standby? Or get them coming?
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hp4l
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Post by hp4l on Nov 25, 2007 16:46:09 GMT -5
Absolutely have the Haz-Mat team come in. I'd rather have them coming and recall them then nothing at all. Until it is determined what is in this truck and since we are waiting for PSE&G anyway, I'd be staging the engine back a ways.
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Post by WebBoss on Nov 25, 2007 16:58:04 GMT -5
I'm easy to get along with on this one...
Binoculars... Up Wind, Up Hill, Up Stream, Up a Creek without a Paddle. If the placards are ahowing cargo within the safe range or the truck driver maybe tells me it's paper or better yet, empty, I'm going to stage at least 2 poles back, send my favorite fire cop for coffee, and wait until the pole climbers arrive and do there thing. Then, because I'm lazy, I'm all about securing a water source and lobbing the old deck gun on it.
If cargo is unknown, stay just far away so the incident appears as a figment of my imagination, and call for the hazmat team.
Oh wait, we are the hazmat team. Dike, Dam, Divert, Oh Damn, and air monitoring.
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JDub
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Post by JDub on Nov 25, 2007 17:01:39 GMT -5
I would stage myself at a relatively good distance. Call the electric company to come shut off the power. Also call hazmat because of the contents of the truck. Once I am cleared by both entities and if the truck hasn't already burnt up, put a hose line in service.
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tootall
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Post by tootall on Nov 25, 2007 20:40:17 GMT -5
I agree with all...just one thing to ponder....Where is the driver? Is he dead? Is he walking around...what info can I get from him and does he need patient care...sorry the Paramedic in me came out....fing EMS!!
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Post by 3105 on Nov 26, 2007 6:20:55 GMT -5
Good point Craig.... if we can't get hard confirmation of what's inside, keep in mind that an average of 25% of over the road trucks are improperly placarded.
Bottom line: Stay skeptical...
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