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Post by voyager9 on Mar 27, 2008 10:45:48 GMT -5
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Post by cmcollier on Mar 27, 2008 13:19:18 GMT -5
Step 1: Locate downed FF (probably the most difficult step)  Step 2: (not pictured) Assess the FF, air status, amount left in cylinder, cylinder valve fully open, facepiece in place, regulator in place? Fill ff cylinder from a FAST pack if possible. SIT THE FIREFIGHTER UP. Two other firefighters are required to perform this rescue, one in the front and one behind the downed ff. Step 3: Rear rescue firefighter locates the downed FF's waist strap and releases the tightening buckles on the sides so the front rescue firefighter can pull the waist strap to its full length. Then the front rescue ff will release the seatbelt clip on the waist strap, feed each strap under the harness leg loops, and reconnect the seatbelt clip.  Step 4: The rear rescue firefighter lostnes the downed firefighter's shoulder straps while the front rescue firefighter is finishing step 4. Once the front rescue ff is finished with step 4 he locates the downed firefighter's rapel hook from his personal harness. The shoulder straps are then both hooked into the rapel hook.  Step 5: This step requires a 20' piece of tubular webbing tied into a loop. Place the webbing between the shoulder straps and the back of the downed ff and pull about 20" through. Then tie two overhand knots to create two loops to pull with, one long and one short.  Step 6: Pull the waist and shoulder straps tight. If there is enough slack, tie the two shoulder straps together. There is never enough slack to tie the waist straps together so tie the slack around the strap with an overhand knot. Dont worry, you can cut the entire thing off once you get him outside.  Step 7: Remove FF - rear rescue firefighter uses the webbing loops as handles, front rescue ff uses the harness leg loops as handles. Note how the front rescue firefighter is standing with one of the downed ff's legs between his, this is the easiest way to go up stairs.  This evolution works excelent for going up and down stairs. It was designed by the FDNY after several firefighters were killed in basements due to the fact that when they tried to pull them all out they just pulled there scba and gear off of them. You can also use this to remove a ff out of a window via a portable ladder and a rope or through a hole in a floor or cieling with 6' hook and a rope, i'll see if i can get pictures of that. This procedure is to be used when you have to move the downed ff a considerable distance or go up or down stairs. If you are only a short distance from an exit on the same level it may be too time consuming. |
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Post by cmcollier on Jun 6, 2008 15:03:23 GMT -5
Did anyone give this a shot?
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Post by FirstDue312 on Jun 6, 2008 23:59:28 GMT -5
Haven't tried it as Moorestown doesn't use harnesses. Seems good in theory, especially for FF's with harnesses. How long does it take to package the FF though?
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Post by cmcollier on Jun 7, 2008 12:16:15 GMT -5
The harnesses are great, you would be amazed how many different things you can do with them. They allow you to perform different types of rescues to rescue a civilian or firefighter as well as make it much easier to rescue you should something happen. Check out the Camden County Fire Academy's course schedule, they run a personal harness class that I hear is pretty good. With a little practice I would estimate that the packaging can be done in in about 2 or 3 minutes. It is really designed for if you have to move a firefighter up or down stairs so you don't just pull all of their gear off of them. If you only have to go a short distance on the same level it may be quicker and easier to just do the SCBA straps through the legs maneuver and go. Try different things with whatever SCBA and bunker gear configuration your dept uses. Invent your own rescue methods based on what you have to work with.
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Post by thelurker on Jun 8, 2008 11:39:21 GMT -5
Good idea chris..... let me try this one out...  So we leave the defib at the front door so the little flashing hourglass can lead us out. Then we fashion a harness using oxygen tubing and cravats....then we loop it though the handles on the jump bag. Next we sling the jump bag over the LT's shoulders Tie the suction unit to the downed FF...don't want to leave it behind. Now the LT attached a non-rebreather to himself and begins to drag the downed firefighter from the house. To make this a little easier, use the CPR board like a sled. This method has been designed by me after coming to the realization that our fire trucks are nothing more than ambulances with hosebeds and no stretchers..... How'd I do??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by canman on Jun 9, 2008 14:25:45 GMT -5
Dean you forgot Hare-traction plint for search tool! just a suggestion!!  |
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Post by thelurker on Jun 11, 2008 12:12:19 GMT -5
LOL...no hare traction on the engine....we will just each take half of the scoop stretcher...that will work
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Post by shader101 on Jun 11, 2008 12:49:06 GMT -5
hey Lurker lol dod is looking for FF's one year tour overseas pay's good , off duty liberty sucks,unless your into goats & desert jockeys, not too many fishing holes either
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Post by WebBoss on Jun 12, 2008 6:19:51 GMT -5
LOL...no hare traction on the engine....we will just each take half of the scoop stretcher...that will work The first time I read this I left out the word "hare" and thought you guys got 2012 stuck again... eesh  |
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Post by thelurker on Jun 13, 2008 7:56:45 GMT -5
hey Lurker lol dod is looking for FF's one year tour overseas pay's good , off duty liberty sucks,unless your into goats & desert jockeys, not too many fishing holes either Not a chance, they couldn't pay me enough, but I am looking at other FD's elsewhere in the country. |
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