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[shader101]

looks like the webboss would rather they be one legged so they cant get away lol

[WebBoss]

shader101 said:

looks like the webboss would rather they be one legged so they cant get away lol

I'm actually a little afraid to ask this, but what are you talking about?

[shader101]

admin said:

3105 said:

Put one heck of a nick in the glasses as well. Stunned her for a moment too. Glad she was wearing glasses... no interest in a one-eyed girl. ;D

[shader101]

a little fear is a good thing lol

[1900]

JDub..
We buy safety glasses from All-Industrial Safety which is located at 950 Mt. Holly Road in Edgewater Park...871-5000, 800-937-2338

There about $5.00 a pair but they are comforatble and dont look all goofy...

We re-searched it, I wanted comforatble non-goofy looking saftey glasses that way guys would wear them...

We also buy the chum cords and hang a clear pair and tinted pair at each seat.

Here are the Item #'s

Chum Cord- CH-100S
Tinted Glasses- PY-SB3320E
Clear- PY-SB3310E

[JDub]

Thanks Chief

I am going to look into as soon as I can.

[wellingcountry]

Coat Pockets:
Seat Belt Cutter
Window Punch
Shove Knife
Elevator Key
Electrical Tester
Door Chock
Gerber Tool
Pocket Knife
CPR Microsheild

Outside of Coat:
Flash Light
Pass Tags
SCBA Mask (in Bag)
Gloves Fire/Rescue

Inside Coat:
Pass Tag
Door Chocks
Spare Hood


Pants Pockets:
Personal Rope
Spare fire Gloves

Helmet:
Spare Hood
Door Chock and Flashlight

Knee Pads:
Webbing

[cmcollier]

I recently realized how much extra stuff I carried around in NJ. When I moved up here and realized that they dont have pants pockets I was a little worried about where I was going to keep everything, I honestly dont miss them.

Used to carry in NJ:

Coat Radio Pocket:
wire cutters
chanel locks with handles modified to key tools
6 in 1 screwdriver

Coat Inside Pocket:
Fire alarm control panel and pull station keys

Coat Left Pocket:
shove knife
elevator single drop and small lunar key
construction crayon
center punch

Coat Right Pocket:
chocks
hose strap

Pants Left Pocket:
20' webbing looped
chock
left fire glove
left leather work glove

Pants Right Pocket:
40' personal escape rope
knife
right fire glove
right leather work glove

Carried a survivor light on the coat and a vulcan on my side


Now carry:

Coat Left Pocket:
chanel locks
6 in 1 screwdriver
hose strap

Right Coat Pocket:
20' webbing looped
25' utility rope
wire cutters

Inside Coat Pocket:
Fire alarm panel and pull station keys

Bail out system on the right hip attached to the harness
flashlight across my shoulder
chocks on the helmet
nails on the helmet

Hood goes around my neck and gloves go on my hands, no need to waste pocket space for them, facepiece attached to the regulator.

[rp42]

In my top radio pocket- A battery operated screw gun. I also have a pocket knife on a break away zip tie.

I keep my radio in a radio strap.

Right Jacket pocket- EMS field guide, EMS shears, Pocket Mask, and Galls 10 in 1 Rescue Tool. Center Punch

Left Coat pocket- Door chocks, battery/cable cutters, vice grips. dry earse marker (for when I drive) contractor pencil, and pocket knife (sharpens pencils and cuts objects).

Inside pocket- rain proof note book. N95 Mask (to proctect against TB) and Safety glasses.

Gloves are on a strap which is hooked up to my zipper.

On my Gemtor belt- I have glove pouch with 2 sets of EMS gloves.
I aslo have 40 ft of bail out rope in a bag which i clip on the belt it looks like a fanny pack.

Right Pants pocket- 1 6 ft webbing with a beaner, 1 25 ft webbing with a beaner. right rescue glove 1 spanner wrench

Left Pants- 12 piece ratchet set. Left rescue glove 1 spanner wrench

Helmet- rubber band, 1 wood chock, 4 2 1/2 inch masonary nails (best door chocks), shove knife, 1 golf tee, 1 Garrity light.

I also have a truck belt which has a biel tool on it, and I hook my fire vulcan lite to it.

Mask is hooked to the regulator, hood around my neck. I like the alarm keys, does anyone know where to get them?

[cmcollier]

There are a few places you can get the fire alarm keys.

When you go on runs and there is a key in the lock on the panel and another one hanging from it on a key ring, take one. If they left it right there for you they must want you to have it.

If you do fire inspections or run into a fire alarm contractor on a run you can ask them for some. Every alarm panel, annunciator, pull station and anything else that has a key comes with two. Contractors usualy have a whole box full.

[soon2bfdny]

cmcollier said:

I recently realized how much extra stuff I carried around in NJ. When I moved up here and realized that they dont have pants pockets I was a little worried about where I was going to keep everything, I honestly dont miss them.

Used to carry in NJ:

Coat Radio Pocket:
wire cutters
chanel locks with handles modified to key tools
6 in 1 screwdriver

Coat Inside Pocket:
Fire alarm control panel and pull station keys

Coat Left Pocket:
shove knife
elevator single drop and small lunar key
construction crayon
center punch

Coat Right Pocket:
chocks
hose strap

Pants Left Pocket:
20' webbing looped
chock
left fire glove
left leather work glove

Pants Right Pocket:
40' personal escape rope
knife
right fire glove
right leather work glove

Carried a survivor light on the coat and a vulcan on my side


Now carry:

Coat Left Pocket:
chanel locks
6 in 1 screwdriver
hose strap

Right Coat Pocket:
20' webbing looped
25' utility rope
wire cutters

Inside Coat Pocket:
Fire alarm panel and pull station keys

Bail out system on the right hip attached to the harness
flashlight across my shoulder
chocks on the helmet
nails on the helmet

Hood goes around my neck and gloves go on my hands, no need to waste pocket space for them, facepiece attached to the regulator.

why would you have nails in your helmet. that just seems like a waste of space. you could put more chocks there. i have 6 in my helmet in case of a store fire with alot of doors. also where do you keep your accountability tag

[smthborenzzle]

Nails work as door chocks. I have some in my helmet band. Usually like an 8 inch carpentry nail or such. Put them between the door and frame and pull back on the door a bit. Things go south in the room and you can slam the door shut pretty quick. They are alot less bulky than the chocks. Some people like the chocks better so to each their own i guess.

[cmcollier]

haha, where do you get an 8 inch carpentry nail? i believe you mean an 8 penny nail. i have 4 or so on my helmet and 1 chock. the nails are never used as a chock to a fire apartment since they can get knocked out, always use a chock or the axe. the nails are for when you are leaving and want to leave the door chocked open to get the smoke odor out so you dont get called back 3 more times in the middle of the night. they are like throw away chocks so to speak. personaly i dont think you need 6 chocks, 2 or 3 is good, everyone should have 2 or 3 so there should be plenty to go around. i put one in my helmet, and one on my coat in the loop where you would hang a flashlight since i wear my flashlight on a strap across my shoulder. as for the accountability tags, the fdny doesnt have them. accountability is done via a riding list which there is a copy of on the dash of the rig and in the officers pocket.

[soon2bfdny]

you would think an elite dept like fdny would have a better accountability system. when i get on the job up there im going to talk to some of the senior guys in my fire station and try to get them to use accountability tags as per NIMS. i also think you need to have a flashlite on your coat. how does a chock even stay on your coat. if you have enough on your helmet than you dont need it on your coat.

[FirstDue312]

Good luck trying to change a whole department. I'm pretty sure it has to be a department wide mandate, otherwise you're straying from their SOG/SOP's and whoever implemented it could be held liable in the event of an LODD or injury

[cmcollier]

The system works very well, i think anyway. Every company has 5 or 6 guys, so each boss is responsibe for his 4 or 5 firemen under him. If someone is lost or missing the boss will see who he has with him and identify the missing member by process of elimination, pretty simple. As far as location in the fire bldg is based on what due you were. If truck 1 is first due, they will be in the fire apt, with the first due engine. the second due engine will be with the first due helping them stretch. the 3rd and 4th engines with the second due truck will be on the floor above. the third due truck will be the fast truck. the roof men and ov in the truck operate remote from the officer and are supervised by the officer via the radio. As for trying to change your fire house to tags, good luck bro... let me know how that works out for you! Also, the fdny has fire houses, not stations, ambulances come from stations.

[voyager9]

Apr 22, 2008 23:51:24 GMT -5 soon2bfdny said:

when i get on the job up there im going to talk to some of the senior guys in my fire station and try to get them to use accountability tags as per NIMS.

LOL! Let me know how that conversation turns out. Maybe it will go easier if you start it out with "Back at my old station we...". And make sure to do it on your first day..

[WebBoss]

Apr 22, 2008 23:51:24 GMT -5 soon2bfdny said:

you would think an elite dept like fdny would have a better accountability system. when i get on the job up there im going to talk to some of the senior guys in my fire station and try to get them to use accountability tags as per NIMS. i also think you need to have a flashlite on your coat. how does a chock even stay on your coat. if you have enough on your helmet than you dont need it on your coat.

What FDNY does apparently works for FDNY. May not work for you or your department, but then again, you are not FDNY.

If you don't like what FDNY does, then why go there?

Oh, and I hate to break the news to you, NIMS has nothing to do with Personnel Accountability Systems.

If you want to be FDNY, I strongly suggest you hit the books rook.

On a happier note, this forum site was developed to exchange good thoughts and ideas amongst firefighters and other public safety providers. If you have something intellegant to contribute, please by all means feel free to. Otherwise, sit back, read along, and hopefully learn something.

- The WebBoss

PS- Brother Collier, stay safe in NYC, and I for one look forward to what you have to share.

[ENG27SQ]

Well said Sean!