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Post by thelurker on Apr 3, 2008 23:45:42 GMT -5
Scotty,
I think it's a great idea, I just can't imagine the county actually backing it, or funding it properly.
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Post by thecutman on Apr 4, 2008 19:46:05 GMT -5
Lurker,
I know it's a pipe dream but hey isn't everything in the begining?
Maybe one day this will be a reality.
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Post by thelurker on Apr 5, 2008 13:21:59 GMT -5
fair enough
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Post by shader101 on Apr 6, 2008 14:00:19 GMT -5
since our great county uses cc dist 13 in the lower half and mercer in the upper halve, the state has a rescue task force ect, why would our political types spend money on something that someone else is providing us for FREE, spend your $$ wisely the cuts are coming, AHJ the biggest copout the nfpa puts in all their recomendations, takes the responsibility off them places it directly on AHJ
hey Lurker my sky is red purple,orange & hazy blue , sun rises and sets are the best blue is boring, lol
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Post by thecutman on Apr 6, 2008 15:15:18 GMT -5
since our great county uses cc dist 13 in the lower half and mercer in the upper halve, the state has a rescue task force ect, why would our political types spend money on something that someone else is providing us for FREE, spend your $$ wisely the cuts are coming, AHJ the biggest copout the nfpa puts in all their recomendations, takes the responsibility off them places it directly on AHJ hey Lurker my sky is red purple,orange & hazy blue , sun rises and sets are the best blue is boring, lol Shader, I agree 100% but our county see's a need to do this. I would use CHFD and TF801 and save our money. However our county is on the move to start a team, whether right or wrong, and I think the county should back it through funding and not just a few municipalities? The county has deeper pockets than municipal govt. They need to stop spending so much on parks and recs and take a look at the services that they should be providing. Just my two cents! |
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Post by papacheese on Apr 13, 2008 20:02:43 GMT -5
The biggest hurtle that would need to be jumped is statistical in nature...how many tech rescue situations are typically encountered in the county response area versus available assets and funding. No matter what the subject matter might be, it's difficult to make a case for something that doesn't happen a whole lot. Not saying I agree with that philosophy, but it does seem to be the political/administrative mind-set we'd most likely encounter.
Remember: nothing is EVER that important until something REALLY bad happens...only then will it get the attention it deserves.
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Post by thecutman on Apr 17, 2008 20:50:19 GMT -5
The biggest hurtle that would need to be jumped is statistical in nature...how many tech rescue situations are typically encountered in the county response area versus available assets and funding. No matter what the subject matter might be, it's difficult to make a case for something that doesn't happen a whole lot. Not saying I agree with that philosophy, but it does seem to be the political/administrative mind-set we'd most likely encounter. Remember: nothing is EVER that important until something REALLY bad happens...only then will it get the attention it deserves. PapaCheese, I see your point and it is a valid point. What I am truly getting at is that quite a few towns have done this over and over. They get the training and do not keep up on it, something else comes up and it falls to he wayside. I know the new county program is supposed to abate this from happening. However I feel just as you said that the lack of call volume is going to have an effect on responders and they will eventually peter out again due to lack of participation in incidents. A few points if I may; if the hazmat and tech rescue were combined into one unit with full time responders paid during the daytime hours and on call in the evening I think it would be feasible and a little easier to achieve. The team would be the lead on all tech rescue and the out laying towns that dabble in the tech rescue can assist with the team, train with the team and so on. These employees could benefit the county by teaching academy classes such as confined space, rope rescue, hazardous materials, CBRNE and so on. They could do industrial training and beef up the academy training schedule. There are numerous benefits to this type of service. The call volume is a point of contention, but added with hazmat the number will look a little better. Add in training sessions conducted and if the academy advertised the industrial end I know they could land some nice contracts with some of the industrial folks for training. Another benefit is the maintenance of the hazmat, and rescue equipment. There is quite a bit of time needed to document the inspection, calibration, fit testing, and numerous other areas where these employees could be utilized. If they don't want to do this we can just save allot of money and stay as it is by calling Cherry Hill , which is an excellent option. |
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